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Subject The proof will be in the pudding. I can wait for the
     
Posted by Ash's Z on July 11, 2005 at 2:34 PM
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In Reply To ok posted by aliaZ on July 11, 2005 at 08:25 AM
     
Message results of some empirical testing that show the benefits/drawbacks of these manifolds before I make any conclusive statement about them from here on.

It really stinks that if one states an opinion based solely on their own gut feeling rather than appealing to the masses, that individual gets attacked simply for having a different opinion. This is nothing new to me and I understand the dynamic, but I felt that I should try and re-iterate the fact that this is only my opinion vs. your opinion. Neither of us have any quantifyable data that supports us either way or the other. Perhaps that may allow you to more easily accept my opinion for what it is.

The day I see solid proof that these manifolds are going to outperform everything else on the market, in all areas, including performance and durability, I will get the biggest hard-on of all time for them. I have been exposed to a very large group of Z32s with a huge variety of aftermarket components installed onto them and as time marches on, I will have exposure to vehicles with these manifolds on them. It is just a matter of time before any of us know how these manifolds will perform, but with the pictures posted about their design, does it come as a suprise that some people may point out a few concerns? That is all I have to work with at this point and some may even call it the voice of reason. Without proof, they are just pictures. I am not the only one that is concerned with the design - I am just the one that is stating the opinion.

So dare-ful that I may ask, can we agree to disagree? And if so, what are we dis-agreeing on?

I do agree with you on the fact that if you are going to support a product that you better well know the details of the product. However, this is not a cut and dry case of the example you are showing. Details on the product have not been released until now to the general public. I only suggested to people to wait for the release of the information before they make a decision; not make a decision on something they knew nothing about.

My jury is still out until I see the numbers though. Everyone else should take the same position to play it safe. To leave you with something positive in this whole thing: IF these manifolds do perform better than alternative solutions, you can bet I will be suggesting people to buy them.

Thanks again for posting the pictures up though, really. I have been very curious about them for a good bit of time now and have been anxiously waiting. Although it isn't quite what I expected, I am still very curious about how they will perform. It is also way cool to see the actual mold patterns for them too - it shows a LOT of detail about the runners. :)




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